rove and got a surprising answer. >> karl rove, can you imagine the next presidential cam paper, a republican candidate saying flat-out, i am for gay marriage? >> i could. he said he may not win or he or she may not win. so something is going on, bishop. >> right. and karl rove is not known for grasping the obvious. right? here, he has grasped the obvious. every demographic group every religious group are now showing a majority of approval for same-gender marriage. it's an astounding thing. never in the history of any civil rights movement have we come so far so fast. and, i would say, even if we achieve full marriage equality and all of the other equal status of citizenship in this country, there would be work to be done. let's remember that when we got the jim crow laws off of the books in the signatures for african-americans, it didn't mean the end of racism. and there will still be anti-gay feeling and sentiment in the country that will need to be worked on. but getting the laws in order, that is an important step forward. >> these are all signs of just about every sector of the economy,